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    one week old tang has ickand grey spot

    the tang has white dots ,little specks and under the abdemon he showing a grey1/2 centimeter spot.why?he eats well and very active.

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    and he is always going to the cleaner shrimp and pepermint shrimp

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    Cleaner shrimp / pep shrimp will not take the parasites off your fish, it's a myth.

    Are you sure it's not black ick >Paravortex (the black spot disease a.k.a. black ick) which is caused by the turbellarian flatworm with a similar life cycle as “Ick”?

    Is there any stringy feces?

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    the feces is long but it disintegrates right away

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    Cleaner shrimp / pep shrimp will not take the parasites off your fish, it's a myth.
    Wow... this goes against what I have heard for years. Out of curiousity, what do the shrimp take off? Is it just dead skin, ect?

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    yes it was removing the greyish skin i was freafing out how beautiful nature works.the tang goes at the same spot and waits for the cleaner shrimp and you can see this and the tang is like shivering if only i had tape for mt video camera

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    now isee three little scab like on the .skin

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    Originally posted by Cake Fan
    Cleaner shrimp / pep shrimp will not take the parasites off your fish, it's a myth.


    I would agree about the peppermints.. But as for the cleaners.. I would strongly disagree with you , As i have personally seen Both Cleaner shrimps and cleaner wrasses Pick and "Clean" when i had my Naso tang.. In fact he would always be up at the glass and i could see the shrimp working around him, While doing that i could physically see the white specs disappearing!

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    they both had a turn working on him i saw the pepermint and the cleaner shrimp the one with the long white stripe on his back.

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    Well I didn't word that properly *my bad* but the fact is that if (I'll explain the if after) they do eat parasites i.e. ick they do not do enough to keep it under control or eliminate the problem. The debate is do they eat ick or not and if they do they don't do a great job. IMO if cleaners ate parasites (or were designated parasite cleaners) then all cleaners would *clean* and not all do. I've had them and I've never seen them cleaning the fish, they'd rather scavenge.

    I'm not debating if other people's shrimp do clean but if parasites were a staple of their diets I think it would be a more common occurance, which it's not. This is JMO, but one thing is for certain and that is if they do eat the parasites DON'T rely on that to rid your tank of ick or come close to controlling it and that's what the myth is.


    http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...light=goby+ick


    http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...light=goby+ick

    ok, first, a cleaner shrimp is not a cure or even a treatment for Ich. Yes they will eat the tomites off of the fish from time to time, but don't expect it to save your fish. ok, first, a cleaner shrimp is not a cure or even a treatment for Ich. Yes they will eat the tomites off of the fish from time to time, but don't expect it to save your fish.

    http://www.wetwebmedia.com/labroide1.htm

    http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/in...nshrmfaqii.htm

    <"Black spot" is very common in yellow tangs. It is an external parasite and as you have seen, it responds very well to FW dips. Your five minute dip is still at the very minimum.>

    http://www.petsforum.com/personal/tr...marineich.html

    Can cleaner wrasses control "Ich"?
    Many aquarists regard common cleaner wrasses, Labroides dimidiatus, as effective agents for the control and treatment of marine "Ich". While this would be a desirable situation, it is unfortunately not true. Grutter (2000) showed that L. dimidiatus feeds mainly on the larvae of gnatid isopods throughout its life, and C. irritans theronts were never found in it's diet. Fish remain infected with theronts despite the presence of cleaner wrasse, and even the cleaner wrasse may become infected (personal observation).

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