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    New Tank Setup - Advise Needed!!

    Hello everyone,

    Just joined here today and thought I would put everyone's knowledge of salt water tanks to use here. I have run my freshwater tank for years now and am bored stiff of it. I am now venturing into the salt water setup.

    I went to a local shop (Big Al's in Kitchener) to find out what I need to get started and have been told to get the following items:

    - 75 gallon tank ($257.79) w/ stand ($263.36). I will be using an under-the-tank setup.
    - 1 - AL 48" 2 x 54w T5 SW Link lighting ($178.70)
    - Custom sump tank that they are making for me. ($211.64)
    - 1 - SP Mag Drive 9.5 pump ($141.08)
    - 1 - CoralLife Super Skimmer 125 Gal w/ pump ($253.96)
    - 2 - Koralia Evolution 750 ($94.06)

    That will be my main setup. As you can see it is quite pricey ($1,400.00) which is why I thought I would get some expert opinions on the quality of the skimmers and pumps, etc. I also do not want to be taken advantage of so the more knowledge I have the better. I have done tons of reading and checked online reviews but more is always better!

    Lastly, I will be needing about 80 lbs of live rock and I know they want WAY too much for it and would like to see if anyone has any for sale that they can ship to Kitchener. I would prefer it being cured all ready but I am willing to put in the time if necessary.

    Thank you.

    Derek

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    Additional Info

    Sorry, I forgot to mention the it will be a FOWLR setup for now until I am ready to move to a Coral tank as well. Should I update my lighting right away for a coral tank or leave it as is until I am ready to move in that direction?

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    for the lighting.. if you go with a coral setup right away its cheaper for sure in the long run... but depends how long before you change.. if its a mather of months, wait and get the proper lighting now, if you are talking years ( 1-2 ) the prices will go down and technology will be better then, so i would get regular lights if that were the case.

    i'm not too familiar with the coralife skimmers... the mag pump 9.5 is a great pump.. if kept clean, it will last for years. koralia pumps are also good.
    I have some LR.. but not really willing to ship.. too much trouble sorry.

    moving.. so temporarily out of SW :b8:
    planning next tank, possibly 60x30x20 on 2x plasma.
    updated: 2011/05/30

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    Oh.. and welcome to Aquaria Canada :b2:

    .. I believe we have a few sponsors in your neck of the woods..
    might want to compare with them those prices and setup options

    moving.. so temporarily out of SW :b8:
    planning next tank, possibly 60x30x20 on 2x plasma.
    updated: 2011/05/30

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    Some of those prices seem a tad steep to me. A 75G at Big Al's here in Ottawa is $129-ish, last time I was in there, they were on sale for $109. These tanks aren't drilled. I paid $25 per hole to get mine drilled-and each hole came with a bulkhead. You could build yourself a great stand for $263 in materials. As for the sump, you could pick up a used 40B or 30L for under $50. Another $25-30 for glass baffles and you have yourself a custom sump.

    I haven't used the Coralife skimmers, but from what I've read, they aren't the greatest. One of our Sponsors - Blakes, I believe, has a sale on Octopus skimmers. Less money and a much better skimmer.

    The Koralias are great PH's. 2X750 won't be enough for a reef, though. I'd get the 1400's (I have 2x1400 and 2xKoralia 1 in my 75G)

    As for lighting, if you can afford it, I'd go with a reef-suitable fixture right off the bat. It will save you the hassle of upgrading later on.

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    Thanks

    Thanks for the input guys. Much appreciated. If I move up from the 750's to 1400's does that mean I also need a larger Mag Drive?

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    isn't your mag drive for driving the sump ?
    doesn't have anything to do with your 750's
    but i'm with Rybren, get the bigger Koralias now.

    moving.. so temporarily out of SW :b8:
    planning next tank, possibly 60x30x20 on 2x plasma.
    updated: 2011/05/30

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    Yah sorry... Info overload here. LOL. I've been filling my head with everything for the past week now. I will upgrade for sure. I actually found the 1400's online for the same price as what I was quoted for the 750's so I think I will go that route.

    Still up in the air with this whole skimmer though. I was checking the reviews on the CoralLife and it is not looking so good. Lots of people are having problems with the overflow on it.

    I have contacted Blake though and will hopefully go with the Octopus. Looks like there are a lot of good reviews on it. I guess I just worry about setting everything up properly... The OCT-DNW-150 is what I am looking at. It says it requires being plumbed into the overflow or needs a pump... I do have a sump setup so does it get installed directly into that or do I need a pump, and if so, what type would you use for this unit? Am I driving everyone crazy yet? hehehe...

    Thanks,

    Derek

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    I have the Octopus 110 recirculating version (I forget the model #) It can be run either in-sump or externally. I orginally bought it for my 30G with no sump and is now running on my 75G+35G sump. It pulls out a lot of gunk, but I would rather have the 150. I've run mine both internally or externally with no difference in performance. It's currently being run externally because I don't have a lot of room under my stand, but I have room behind the stand.

    It can be fed either directly from the overflow or via a small pump from the sump. Mine is fed by a MJ900 from the sump.

    Hope this helps.

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    Thanks. That does help. I am going to purchase that unit and see how I make out with that one.

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