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    Senior Member yellowtang's Avatar
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    filter question.

    Hello you all!!!!!
    I have one important question for anybody,who would
    like to help me in this never ending hobby.
    as a new hobbist! I want to start with my 33G tank.
    A canister filter likes of fluval 404 and all those canisters
    in the market. Is this a good choice to start with a can
    filter together with skimer and power heads to keep
    the water clean and well balanced.? People say that
    those filters don't really do a good job. What AM I to
    think.are cannister filters good for even bigger tanks?
    or a trickle system is the best choice for bigger tanks.
    what do you suggest.? I would really value your
    comments

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    For canister filters try this thread.
    http://aquariacanada.com/forums/show...&threadid=2536
    "The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them."
    - Albert Einstein (1879-1955)

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    I'd go with a good protein skimmer (they aren't all created equal by a long shot), a good amount of live rock, a refugium and some nice fne sand. In my opinion, canister filters aren't good for reef tanks and neither are the wet/dry or trickle filters.
    Susan

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    So cannister filters are out of the question! Just enough rock
    a skimmer, powerheads and a good sand base will do the
    job. is that right? will the water settle from all the particles
    for a first time set up?. thanks.

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    Yes and no. There are many ways to run a successful reef. I know people who run cannisters without a skimmer and have very, very nice tanks. This is just the way I do it. The key is the skimmer in my setup - not just any skimmer. Do the research before you buy. Do not take the word of the local fish store and buy a Seaclone because it's all they sell.

    Not quite sure what you're asking about the water settling.
    Susan

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    Ment to say!!!!!!
    if i start with just the things I have mentioned.
    will the clouddiness of the water be present in the tank
    for a long time.....since there is no sucktion from a canister.
    or the skimmer will the all the cleaning?
    The more I read .the more I get confused about all
    the equipment. seaclone? how about the ones that
    marine aquascape sells .? are they any good.??? thanks

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    I found the cloudiness from the sand cleared in about 2 days. I've read of people preseeding some/all of the sand to help this clear quicker. Just mix up some salt water in a pail. Add sand and a dead shrimp from the grocery store. Let sit, stirring every few days. When the odor is gone, you then put all the other sand into your tank and add the treated sand last. The treated sand is loaded with bacteria (which will help your tank cycle) that causes the sand to settle quicker.

    Vickie

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    I added a SB to an established tank and the sand settled in a few days, I did rinse the sand first to remove xs dust and minimize stress, but you shouldn't need to do this.
    I agree on the skimmer part, I ran with a Bio-wheel for 2 1/2 years and had no problems and when I added the skimmer I was amazed at what it pulled out and the water looks clearer.
    the good ones are expensive, but worth the $. I made the mistake of getting a cheap one initially ($250) and had to replace it, unfortunately I had to get another mid-range ($399) and if I had gone with a good one from the start I would have saved money.
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    I'm not familar with the skimmers that marine aquascape sells. I've only used a LifeReef skimmer so it's the only one I can really comment on - it's great. Others can perhaps write in with brand names of other good quality skimmers.
    Susan

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    us ethe canister to polish the water when you have to. then take out all the media and just use it to move water. mine has about 2 gallons of volume. that gives me 2 more gallons for my tank

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