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    Senior Member BIGGUNSAR's Avatar
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    Im need help starting a FIRST TANK

    I want a tank about 125 gal. I want a reef tank. I have been dreaming of this for 3 years, and REALLY REALLY want it! plus i have the time to devote to the tank (probably be staring at it for hours just watching the live rock doing it's thing) YES hehe i know, wow, i gotta lot of time on my hands 8)=).

    SO anyways, from the experienced guys/girls in here.

    I was thinking like this (ps, im reading all your posts and absorbing all the knowledge i can).
    tank (like ivan was saying with the special glass in the front) 125 gal.
    220w lights
    live rock
    and just that for a month and a half.... (am i close)
    anything else as far as equipment, like protien skimmer (and what about that spare over flow tank thing)
    what do you need there, a pump?
    can someone give me a run down. PLEASE.
    thank you very much. im so close to my dream of owning this bad boy. im excited like an 8 year old on christmas.

    8)=).

    thanks again.
    HEY Ivan, drop me a line, so we can talk turkey about purchasing a tank.
    if you have that 90 gal still, i might be interested in the purchase asap.

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    biggunsar,

    know how you feel, just got my 90g from IJO, asked all the same questions you did like 3 days ago hehe, while it's still fresh in my mind here's what I got so far:

    1 - Go see IJO he's in Ottawa, he has a 90g brand new for sale, I saw it, bought one... 125g is good too but you might want to save up for the stuff below hehe
    2 - Before you put live rock in, you need at least the following:
    - A sump, get harley to give you a quote, he makes them out of acrylic they are awesome (saw one tonight). Or just get a fish tank and make one up (see DIY forums)
    - A pump. I suggest a MAG 18 (not from experience but from my studies, everyone seem to like em)
    - Lots of piping and fittings
    - Substrate (sand if you will)
    - Heater(s) go with two in case one breaks in my opinion. - Ebo-Jaber
    - Live rock/Live sand for the sump
    - Saltwater mix (need input from more experienced folks here)
    - Lighting, I assume 220w is MH. Look for some way of starting up with VHO tubes and upgrade later by adding the MH, you'll have time to get the tank started. The only important is to build a good size canopy to accomodate the MH later.
    3 - Everything you do, ask the folks here before, it's easy to get overexcited and get shafted by the pet store.
    The above is for the first month 1/2 running.
    As for the rest I'll let someone else help you I'm not there yet.

    Cheers,
    st

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    My first suggestion is to buy a book (I know no one likes to hear that, but it is very important). It's very easy for people to misunderstand or assume you know something already when responding to questions. This forum is great and there is a great deal of people with year of knowledge and experience, but books are the key to educating yourself.

    Heres a great one It will take you from beginner to advance and beyond
    Natural Reef Aquariums by John H. Tullock

    Good luck and keep us posted

    J

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    Thanks

    Well i will try coles and see if I can find anything useful.

    But this site seems to be awefully informative.
    Not to sound ignorant, but i think if i read and remembered everything on this site. I could probably muster my way through a tank set up.

    without loss to fish
    my plan, waiting two moths before introducing ANY fish.

    make my tank reef live rock and inverts first, and just watch them and form the tank that way at first (sorta like the evolution creation theory)

    I am going to design my tank evolutionary style i guess is a good way to put it.

    Start off with live rock, balance water. Then either plants and rotifers or/and then live sand and a small invert which eat algea. Then whatever cleans sand (either starfish or those burrowing creatures in the sand) then once they are all happy. start introducing shrimp, and then finally fish.

    okay, sounds kooky.
    but if it worked for the big bang theory, hopefully it will work for the biggunsar theory 8)=)

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    Agreed, but you REALLY want a book, I have a good dozen (the thick bastards kind) and read them all. you can never know too much...

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    If I may suggest a few good ones...
    The Conscientious Marine Aquarist : A Commonsense Handbook for Successful Saltwater Hobbyists is an EXCELLENT book for beginners.

    There are many others out on the market, but they may be dated and have "old" information...

    Anyhow, here's the list..


    The Coral Reef Aquarium - by Ron Shimek

    Reef Invertabrates, An essential guide to selection, care and compatibility - by Anthony Calfo and Robert Fenner

    Natural Reef Aquariums : Simplified Approaches to Creating Living Saltwater Microcosms
    by John H. Tullock, Martin A. Moe

    The Conscientious Marine Aquarist : A Commonsense Handbook for Successful Saltwater Hobbyists
    by Robert M. Fenner, Christopher Turk

    Aquarium Corals
    by Eric Borneman

    The Modern Coral Reef Aquarium vol. 1, 2 & 3

    Corals of the World
    by Jen Veron

    Your First Marine Aquarium - by John Tolluck

    Corals Complete Owner's Manual - by John Tolluck

    Clownfishes and Sea Anemones : Everything About Purchase, Care, Nutrition, Maintenance, and Setting Up an Aquarium (Barron's Complete Pet Owner's manu
    by John H. Tullock

    Marine Atlas Vol 1, 2 & 3: by Helmut Debelius, et al

    Marine Fishes by Scott Michael

    Clownfishes by Joyce D. Wilkerson, Thomas A. Frakes

    Reef Fish, Reef Creatures and Reef Corals by Paul Humann, Ned Deloach

    Corals- A quick referance guide, by Juian Sprung
    Book of Coral propagation, by Anthony Calfo
    I am Homer of BORG... Prepare to be..OOOO!! DONUT!!!!!!

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    Getting back to your subject though, You seem to be taking the proper steps, and taking your time. Which is important in this hobby, as with patience.

    "Only bad things happen fast"

    You seem to be on the right track though.
    Read, then read some more... decide on what type of tank you want to keep, what filtration you will use, then choose your equipment accordingly and design your system around it.

    Ask lots of questions.. That's what this board is here for. Many, many people here would love to help you out.
    I am Homer of BORG... Prepare to be..OOOO!! DONUT!!!!!!

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    Thanks guys for the help

    NOW you guys have me REALLLLLLY excited.

    I can't wait.

    Will contact ijo later on today.

    Might see him this weekend if he has the time.

    BIGGIE signing out 8)=)
    IJO, I will bring da beers

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    BIGGUNSAR.. you might even get special attention since your from Elliot Lake.. lol

    Pm'ed you about the tank..

    ijo

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    thanks ijo 8)=)

    alrighty

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