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    Question building a pond...need some help.

    Hey guys... I have just inherited a fish pond. Its make with a rubber liner. The pond now as it sits is 8 feet in diameter with a dept in the center prob near 20" (although I havenít measured it). Im taking it up from the house that is presently at and moving it to my own. Im just in the process of digging the new site. Im looking at about a 5 foot diameter with more of an oval / egg shape It has a fountain type pump similar to the one below. What im wondering is ....do I need a filter for this pond or a VU light. This is my first pond...so I guess imp just looking for some advice from those who have ponds. This pond will have some koi and some plant life.


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    Both with smaller ponds they are more likely to have algae blooms , the UV light will discourage this. A good bio-filter also helps.
    Koi get very large are you sure you want koi? I have koi some are almost 2.5' in length. Unless you decide to dig 3' down you will have to bring your fish in every winter.
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    ya...taking them in is no problem. they certainly don't have to be koi.....
    im just wondering if a filter is really necessary...and if i can install it later if i need to...or do i have to disrupt the pond to install it.

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    are there certian filters i should look for or stay away from?

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    ive been recommended by reefsalt who has one for a while now to take a bucket with lava rocks inside....thats its...with a good flowing pump like a GX18000 oilless pump...I am doing my sister/brother in law
    pond and i will get a gx 18000 plus a uv light with a mag5 for it....with a bucket with lava rocks as well....apparantly the filters is a pain and not worth it
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    Hi atlantic,

    the filters are just rectangular or round rubbermaid containers.The problem with those units is they can be built for much less and you can fill it withlava rocks and it will work just great, because good filtration is biological & mechanicle,which you will definetly get with simple lava rocks.
    If you run into a problem with suspended particles later on all you will need later would be a liquid clarifier which works miracles.

    It is allways good to place a bag of Peat Granules in your filter before you place the lava rock on it, this will give a brownish tinge but you will have crystal clear water.

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    thanks so much guys...

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    A filter is definitely necessary...either homemade or store bought. Without one the pond will be filthy in no time.

    I would pass on the koi too...as lotus said, they get huge and are really dirty.

    It is allways good to place a bag of Peat Granules in your filter before you place the lava rock on it, this will give a brownish tinge but you will have crystal clear water.
    Barely works as well. It also keeps down the algae and doesn't give the water a brown tinge...if that bothers you.
    James...

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    I agree CG,
    any filter is good,and can be made for a lower cost.

    Barely works as well?

    Peat granules by sera release a humic acid slowly into the water and do give the water a brown tinge.I have been using it for years and works great you must use the right amount as usual for the size of the pond in question for it to be effective.
    They are a deterent(preventative) to algea growth for the simple reason that it changes the lighting effect of the water. preventing algae growth.

    just some info on the product in question
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    Reef Octopus SRO-5000SSS
    Reacteur Sulphur H&S Pour Nitrate
    2x Phosban 550

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    Radion Gen2
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    Doesn't peat also soften the water?

    Cheers!
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