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    Question refuge and sump question

    my current setup is an undrilled sumpless/fugeless 46 gal with a rena xp3, 75 lbs LR,......
    im wondering is there any way that i can make a small sump or fuge (or both) to go under my stand, without drilling and at a resonable price?

    please be detailed because i am new to the sump/fuge scene...thanks


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    you can put your sump / refuge in a location above the tank and pump water up to it and let it flow back down to your tank. Maybe there is room near the tank for a book case or shelfing unit to put the sump / refuge on. It dose not need to be much higher then the tank. As long as the output of the unit is a few inches above the water line of the tank it will work. If above the tank will not suit your situation then you might want to consider a hang on the back overflow box.
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    how would i set up the overflow box?

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    The hang on the back overflow box is a plastic unit you buy that hangs on the back of your tank. Here is a link to a DIY site that has a PIC of one. Easer to look at and understand it then have me explain it to you.

    http://www.reefs.org/library/diy/diy_winner1.html

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    how would i return the water back to the tank?

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    Water has to be pumped back up to the tank. There's no getting around needing a pump. As the tank fills beyond the water line of the overflow box it leaves the tank and goes to your sump / refuge. Then through your sump / refuge to the return pump and back into the tank.
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    so much is this gonna run me?
    and how will i calabrate the return pump so that out=in?

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    can i use a powerhead instead of a pump?

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    I am not sure what a hang on the back overflow box will cost. If you go this way the largest expense will be a return pump that can push the water back up to the tank at a reasonable rate. It is a lot more economical to build your sump / refuge out of a plastic storage bin, a few bulkhead fitting and some plastic food quality tubing. Put it in a position beside but slightly higher the tank and use a good flow rate power head can move water over to the sump. Let that water flow back by gravity. I will try to find you a link to the instructions tomorrow. It is real simple to do and is most cost effective way to do it. There have also been a few threads and PICs of different ways to do at this site. Check out the DIY section. The return line will be larger the the supply line so supply can not out do the return.
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    ok thanks

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