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    Flat cycle...??

    OK folks, I am really scratching my head here.... The tank has been running for two weeks now, and I cannot get any readings on the tank tests. The 2 shrimps are 50% decomposed, the sand and live rocks are in the tank, but no spike.

    Sg: 1.026
    Ph: 8.2
    Ammonia: 0
    Nitrite: 0
    Nitrate: 0

    So, because I had the sand in air-tight buckets, is it possible that I will not see a cycle at all? Or am I just being impatient? :firejump:

    Thanks folks,

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    If your sand was in "air tight" containers for any real length of time the bacteria is most likely dead. Was there an UGLY smell from the sand when you opened the containers?? or did you rinse the sand out real well before it went into the buckets. In any case I would not worry unless you still get no reading after the end of the 3rd week. I have seen tanks appear be doing nothing and then spike over the last week. Some call it a "false" cycle when this happens and will load the tank with a obvious bio matter overload to test the filters managing capacity.
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    if there is decomposing shrimp then there will certainly be some sort of reaction

    are your test kits old? kept properly?
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    If you not geting anything and the shrimp are decomposing, then its mostlikely the test is bust or u didn't do it right, read the lable and try again, if still nothing, try a new kit.

    unless u have no shrimp, ur gonna read some ammonia no mater what

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    Thanks everyone for your input. The test kit is barely one year old, and I can tell it is working correctly, by the test results made on my QT. So, as OSD said, it probablly is better to wait an extra week and see what happens. I also found a reference on RC where it is said that it can take 7 to 10 days before it begins.

    I guess I am being impatient. :firejump:

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    it will be quick, you just need more bacteria to break down that shrimp.

    if you want it to go faster you can get some black mollies and put them in there, they can live through anything.

    I always use them to cycle the tank
    that way you can overfeed
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    Ugh... Would'nt that be cruel to put those little buggers in that cesspool, once it begins cycling? :OMG: I'd rather wait the extra time than do that. Just my opinion here, not judging anyone.

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    Mollies are really hardy, its not as much as a Spike i find either, more of a gentle increase and decrease. I return them to the store when i'm done or feed them to something (prolly more cruel getting chases around by a hippo tang)

    Are you using Cycle? i find that a bottle of that goes a long way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bram
    Mollies are really hardy, its not as much as a Spike i find either, more of a gentle increase and decrease. I return them to the store when i'm done or feed them to something (prolly more cruel getting chases around by a hippo tang)
    I thought mollies were fresh water fishes?

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    Are you using Cycle? i find that a bottle of that goes a long way.
    Never heard of the stuff before, but I still prefer the shrimp method. :wink5: Thanks for the idea tho. I aim at not adding any more chemicals in the tank than I really have to. I'll sit tight and wait for the cycle to go through its paces. Cheers! :beer:

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    Mollies are brackish water fish,
    If you add salt water to them slowly they can live well in a marine aquarium. (takes about 10min)they have the ability to adjust themselves to stop osmosis.

    They are very good at removing hair algae as well as starting the cycle


    As for the product cycle, it essentially is bacteria in a bottle rather then a chemical. Totally safe (reefsafe too) and you can't overdose. it can reduce your cycle time incredibly!

    http://www.petco.com/shop/product.as...av%3d2-4208252

    it is made by Iutrafin (Hagen), I generally use it when starting up a tank, or chanign water on a new system. also when adding fish or if the levels in the tank are off slightly.
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